Manchester United should listen to Pep Guardiola advice after latest Man City humbling

You know it's been a particularly bad Manchester United defeat when Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher are arguing on a split screen on Sky Sports, shouting at each other to let them talk.

As Neville was getting more and more irate in the Sky studio, making the same points over and over where United have gone wrong and leaving Roy Keane and Micah Richards to watching briefs, there was some more constructive advice being offered underneath him in Old Trafford.

Manchester City players had spent the previous two hours toying with United on the pitch, and the travelling fans had spent their afternoons taunting United over a range of things, from the Blues' treble success, to Ilkay Gundogan's 12-second goal, the crumbling state of Old Trafford, and the farcical non-takeover of United over the past 12 months.

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Pep Guardiola was never going to join in that level of mockery, and spent his pre-match talking up United's threats and refusing to rule them out as title contenders. He may do now, after seeing them swatted aside at Old Trafford for the seventh time in his seven-and-a-bit season at City. Even pre-match, Guardiola warned how dangerous it would be to allow United to counter-attack, having slipped to a controversial defeat at United last season.

But, barring a bright spell in the first ten minutes from United, and one brilliant Ederson save at the end of the first half, United were toothless. Erling Haaland gestured to make way for Phil Foden to celebrate City's third, after United had rolled out the red (or blues) carpet for City for 80 minutes.

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