Woodgate on mental health, Middlesbrough and Madrid

Jonathan Woodgate played for Real Madrid and England, managed his hometown club Middlesbrough and has had a career that is the envy of millions. But he has been no stranger to criticism either.

His Real Madrid debut is the stuff of a legend. Due to injury, it came over a year after he had signed for the club and did not go to plan. He scored an own goal and was then sent off. That particular day in September 2005 is one that he is able to laugh off.

"People always ask me about my debut and how bad it was," Woodgate tells Sky Sports. "I always ask them how their Real Madrid debut went. That is my answer to that one. I wasn't bothered in the slightest because I was playing for the biggest team in the world."

Now 42, there is still an air of defiance in his responses. But speaking ahead of the launch of the second series of the Under the Surface podcast with menswear brand Original Penguin and CALM - the Campaign Against Living Miserably - there is greater awareness too.

Those injuries, for example, left their mark on him.

"At the time, you don't know you are really struggling," he explains.

"Nobody ever knew it was called mental health. You would just be called soft.

"It was obviously difficult. When I was in Spain, I found that tough because I was injured for a year. You cannot really go out on a weekend if you are injured because you are doing everything you can to get fit.

"You never realise how you are going to get out of it. What I used to do was stay really positive and believing that you would get fit in the end. But it is hard because you are not able to play the sport you adore.

"A lot of the time I was rushed back as well. It was not just the manager pushing, it was me as well. I rushed myself back quicker. That