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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, it got worse.
That's right, it's another Manchester United post-mortem. Although this time it is surely the most needed.
United were absolutely hammered at Brentford on Saturday, going 4-0 down in 35 minutes and looking alarmingly incapable of stopping the red and white wide which headed toward David de Gea's goal - as much as he was guarding it at all.
The defeat has sparked a new round of claim and counter-claim over just what is going on at Old Trafford, so we've reached out to our Mirror Football team to see what they think.
We gave them three key questions, which were:
Want to know what they said? Read on to find out.
After the debacle of their first two Premier League games under Erik ten Hag, a realistic finishing position for Manchester United is mid-table at best.
While Ten Hag is culpable for team selection and the way he set his side up against Brighton and Brentford, United's new boss has been handicapped by the club's failure to deliver him the players he needs.
Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal, all of whom finished above United last season, have spent more and strengthened their squads with key signings to consolidate their status as top-four contenders.
United, in contrast, have made three signings which have failed to address the biggest areas of concern within ten Hag's