Not what Putin wanted: How will Russia respond to NATO bids by Finland and Sweden?

Is it a miserable own goal by Putin, or further fodder for the "us versus them" siege mentality that is the cornerstone these days of a Russian propaganda machine that has gone full throttle? How will he really react and will public opinion continue to follow him? At a time when neither side wants to negotiate, should the West double down or offer Putin an exit ramp?

Ukraine's president has criticised his French counterpart for evoking dialogue with Moscow at a time when momentum seems to swinging against Russia. We will ask about Emmanuel Macron's motives and how the likes of France should feel about the rejuvenation of a NATO alliance he not too long described as "brain dead". 

Produced by Charles Wente, Elise Marné and Imen Mellaz.

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