CHRIS SUTTON: The time is up for TEN Manchester United players
I might be the first person to ever utter these words but here goes: Roy Keane was kind. He said 'five or six' should never play for Manchester United again. I'd say that's modest.
United fans want to see their team competing for the Premier League and Champions League. If we're basing our decisions on who's good enough to make them an elite club again, then we could hit double figures in terms of who gets binned. Their performance at the Etihad was embarrassing.
Manchester City are fantastic, but I can't remember a side having 92 per cent possession as they did after the third goal in their 4-1 win. These clubs are neighbours but there is a gulf between them.
At Arsenal, supporters can see Mikel Arteta trying to build a new team and so there's been some patience. United need to hit the reset button too.
I know all of the players I've said 'bin' won't suddenly go but this is my player-by-player verdict on a team that is going backwards.
David De Gea - KEEP
Question: Which goalkeeper has made the most saves in the Premier League this season? Answer: De Gea.
He's not been helped by the defence in front of him but has been a consistent stopper of shots. De Gea is one of the few who can hold his head high this season.
Aaron Wan-Bissaka - BIN
Is Wan-Bissaka a bad right back? No. But in a weekend in which Trent Alexander-Arnold, Reece James and Kyle Walker showed what they're all about, Wan-Bissaka is lagging behind.
The way Phil Foden made up 15 yards on him and won possession was alarming.
Victor Lindelof - BIN
As if allowing Foden to loop the ball over him wasn't bad enough, he then stood and watched Kevin De Bruyne score instead of getting back to help. Just not the action of an elite defender.
Harry Maguire - BIN
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